Also Mathew 5:48’s verb is teleois in Greek and means “be complete” or “full grown” “of full age”. Meaning, in my opinion, to “be a complete and mature believer” not “perfect”
Translating from Greek to Latin to English (and all the variations of English) can make it difficult to learn exact meaning. It’s amazing how one word can completely alter the original meaning,,
People/you can ask other people to forgive them/you, but their opinion of you (and anyone else) ultimately does not matter. Every person was born with a sin nature, besides Christ, who was born without a sin nature (Mary “received” no sperm from a man.. sin is passed down through Adam). This means that nobody who as born (conceived by a sperm and an egg) is, or ever will be, perfect.
We are not “supposed to be moral” but we are to follow God’s imperative rules, which we don’t always do. Some of those rules might, or might not be, considered “moral” or “well behaved” at this current day and time. Jesus even did things that weren’t the society’s definition of “moral” during his time on Earth. “Morality” is usually defined by a religion (human’s viewpoint), and a religion can, and does, change its stance regarding “morality” throughout the decades (the evolution of Catholicism, Judaism, Puritanism, and/or Buddhism’s definition of morality changes throughout time - obviously this is not a comprehensive list of all religions). The Bible is not a specific religion, it is God’s word, it is the mind of Christ.
Perfection is not the issue or the way to salvation. Once anyone believes that Jesus is the savior, the messiah, the son of God, they will be in heaven after they die. Nothing you, or anyone else, can do to take that away - not even God can take salvation away from people, because God can never break his promises to mankind. God is always perfect, honest, and fair.
“God did not send his son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting (eternal) life.” John 3: 17-18
I think we’re on the same page. Morality, perfection, and Godly are all similar, but not the same. Behaving as God wants us to does not mean wr must be moral, as defined by today’s terms - that is what I was trying to say. Moral can mean so many different things, and is usually set-up by societal norms and/or secular religions of the time. That being said, I agree that moral principles are Goldy, but I also think that a lot of other moral principles are made up by man and secular ‘rules’ that aren’t based on biblical principals.
God is perfect, yes. Being perfect will not occur for us until we die. So I just don’t think God would “demand” us to be perfect.. God knows that is impossible for us, which is why he sent Jesus (a perfect person) as our substitute. God also forgives us our sins, so I was just trying to say that perfection and/or moral behavior isn’t the issue, faith is the issue.. and that morality is different than perfection. I hope that makes sense. I think we are basically saying the same thing.
Just can't hear this enough. Thanks, Scott! 👊
Very well said. Thank you.
Beautifully said. Thank you so much for saying it!
Well said brother. We need this reminder continually. As our friend A says, “we know The Truth…but we leak a little”.
Wonderful encouragement for we who fail, hourly, daily without end.
Also Mathew 5:48’s verb is teleois in Greek and means “be complete” or “full grown” “of full age”. Meaning, in my opinion, to “be a complete and mature believer” not “perfect”
Translating from Greek to Latin to English (and all the variations of English) can make it difficult to learn exact meaning. It’s amazing how one word can completely alter the original meaning,,
People/you can ask other people to forgive them/you, but their opinion of you (and anyone else) ultimately does not matter. Every person was born with a sin nature, besides Christ, who was born without a sin nature (Mary “received” no sperm from a man.. sin is passed down through Adam). This means that nobody who as born (conceived by a sperm and an egg) is, or ever will be, perfect.
We are not “supposed to be moral” but we are to follow God’s imperative rules, which we don’t always do. Some of those rules might, or might not be, considered “moral” or “well behaved” at this current day and time. Jesus even did things that weren’t the society’s definition of “moral” during his time on Earth. “Morality” is usually defined by a religion (human’s viewpoint), and a religion can, and does, change its stance regarding “morality” throughout the decades (the evolution of Catholicism, Judaism, Puritanism, and/or Buddhism’s definition of morality changes throughout time - obviously this is not a comprehensive list of all religions). The Bible is not a specific religion, it is God’s word, it is the mind of Christ.
Perfection is not the issue or the way to salvation. Once anyone believes that Jesus is the savior, the messiah, the son of God, they will be in heaven after they die. Nothing you, or anyone else, can do to take that away - not even God can take salvation away from people, because God can never break his promises to mankind. God is always perfect, honest, and fair.
“God did not send his son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting (eternal) life.” John 3: 17-18
I think we’re on the same page. Morality, perfection, and Godly are all similar, but not the same. Behaving as God wants us to does not mean wr must be moral, as defined by today’s terms - that is what I was trying to say. Moral can mean so many different things, and is usually set-up by societal norms and/or secular religions of the time. That being said, I agree that moral principles are Goldy, but I also think that a lot of other moral principles are made up by man and secular ‘rules’ that aren’t based on biblical principals.
God is perfect, yes. Being perfect will not occur for us until we die. So I just don’t think God would “demand” us to be perfect.. God knows that is impossible for us, which is why he sent Jesus (a perfect person) as our substitute. God also forgives us our sins, so I was just trying to say that perfection and/or moral behavior isn’t the issue, faith is the issue.. and that morality is different than perfection. I hope that makes sense. I think we are basically saying the same thing.